With Liverpool losing to Tottenham in controversial circumstances, supporters had time to digest the events and discuss the good, bad and nonsense of the match.
There was plenty to talk about after Liverpool’s 2-1 defeat at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium.
As Liverpool supporters had time to process what had happened, they managed to take positives from the loss, but are still angry about the game-changing editing.
Here, Sam Millne (@sam_millne), Patrick Allen (@Pallen_21) and Tom Eves (@TomEvesJourno) discuss Liverpool’s performances and officials as the Reds take on Tottenham.
How did you feel after the loss? 
Sam: It would have been easier to get out if we had taken the issue, but my immediate reaction was frustration and pride.
It was pretty disappointing to have the game taken away from us, but there was a certain spirit in the team that will push the team forward this season.
Tom: I’m very proud of the boys. Each of them showed a heart to hold on until the end, but unfortunately to lose it in the end. Everything was against us on Saturday. Paddy: I’m more angry about the circumstances of the loss than the loss itself. Things happen, you can get hit anywhere, but the fact that it happened like this was heartbreaking.
They made the right change and deserved to come out of a game where everything went against them.
How was the game before Jones’ red card?
Paddy: It seemed to be one of those games that Sky like to market as a ‘classic’. From the football played in the first 20 minutes or so, both sides were full of confidence, but a red card changed everything.
Sam: Before Curtis Jones was sent off, the match looked very much like it was going to be a great game for the neutral – probably the end of Liverpool.
Given that the Reds seem to be getting better by the minute this season, I would definitely think Liverpool will be three points.
Your decisions on the most important decisions…
Paddy: I’m so sorry Jones. He became a mocker of evil laws. This is a “contemporary” red card; of course it doesn’t help that Darren England prepares a stop shot from the point of contact.
Diogo Jota’s first yellow card is an absolute farce, and honestly, secondly, he was incredibly naive to take such a blow.
As for Luis Diaz, I won’t say offside because it wasn’t a disallowed goal. This is incompetence at best, corruption at worst.
I don’t think so, but until PGMOL and Howard Webb can prove to me that people were just incredibly bad at their jobs (to the point of being fired), they will never get rid of the idea that there is more. there. Nice ending anyway.
Sam: By the letter of the law, firing Jones was probably the right thing to do. However, it is not easy to fill the stomach, especially when the view shown to the judge is an ice frame. It doesn’t help anyone.
As for Jota, getting the book back was stupid, but he shouldn’t have been in that situation at all, because the first yellow was a mistake.
On the offside, I don’t think more needs to be said. Absolute incompetence. More transparency if needed if we are to persist with video assistant refereeing.
Tom: I do not think Jones’ tackle is a red at all – he gets the ball first and is unlucky for his foot to slip off the ball and catch Yves Bissouma.
As for the VAR decision for deny Diaz his goal, that is one of the worst decisions I’ve seen. The fact that they didn’t show its lines says it all. Apart from football matches, nowadays we don’t tend to talk about the performance of both sides, but always about the performance of the referees. That’s how you know there’s a problem.
What are the positives?
Tom: I think the positive side is that even when it looked like everything was against us, we fought until the end and gave 110 percent. Like I said before, I’m so proud of the guys’ heart. The cohesion I saw after the game makes me believe we are in for a special season. We have a special group.
Sam: The team spirit was great to see. There was a period when a Newcastle-like result was on the cards, but in the end Jota’s second yellow ruined any chance of victory. I think the only player who let himself down was Jota and this situation should not have happened in the first place. All the signs are good for Liverpool, who could have won it comfortably with 11.
How many changes would you make on Thursday?
Paddy: Some. I think this is more or less the team that played against Leicester and LASK, obviously without Cody Gakpo as it looks like his knee problems could be bad. It’s always nice to see Ben Doak, Jarell Quansah and Caoimhin Kelleher get their time in the spotlight, but no disrespect to Union SG, we should be able to do without the big guns.
Tom: I’d like to see Ryan Gravenberch start in midfield because of how impressive he’s been since joining, and maybe Darwin Nunez because he didn’t get minutes against Tottenham.
I would also like to see Stefan Bajcetic get his second start of the season.
Sam: Well, Jones could also play during a domestic ban until Bournemouth play in the League Cup on November 1st. Jota, who will miss the trip to Brighton next weekend, should also start.
Would like to see Wataru Endo continue to get game time as he showed his quality in the second half against Leicester.
